{"id":105,"date":"2025-07-29T15:13:03","date_gmt":"2025-07-29T15:13:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/museum.middcreate.net\/projects\/visions-of-grandeur\/?page_id=105"},"modified":"2025-09-04T20:21:24","modified_gmt":"2025-09-04T20:21:24","slug":"the-greece-v-rome-debate","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/museum.middcreate.net\/projects\/visions-of-grandeur\/the-greece-v-rome-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"The Greece v. Rome Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Enlightenment \u201crediscovery\u201d of Ancient Greek civilization took shape in the mid-eighteenth century, initiating a debate regarding the respective merits of Ancient Greece and Rome that captivated intellectual circles in Rome.<\/p>\n<p>German cultural historian Johann Joachim Winckelmann (1717\u20131768) spearheaded the Greek camp while Piranesi became the defender of Rome. Arguing for the superiority of Roman aesthetic traditions that he claimed were rooted in Etruscan precedent, Pirianesi replied directly to Winckelmann and other Hellenists like Julien-David Le Roy (French, 1724\u20131803) with his <em>Della magnificenza ed architettura de\u2019Romani [On the Magnificence and Architecture of the Romans]<\/em> (1761).<\/p>\n<p>Despite Piranesi\u2019s efforts, the Greek side eventually won out, leading to the Greek Revival in architecture and a lasting perception of Ancient Greek artistic superiority that lingers to this day.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile is-vertically-aligned-top has-kubio-color-5-variant-2-background-color has-background\" style=\"margin-top:100px;margin-bottom:70px;grid-template-columns:40% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><a 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German cultural historian Johann Joachim Winckelmann (1717\u20131768) spearheaded the Greek camp while Piranesi became the defender of Rome. Arguing for the superiority of Roman [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"page-the-greece-v-rome-debate-template-2","meta":{"saved_in_kubio":true,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-105","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"kubio_ai_page_context":{"short_desc":"","purpose":"general"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>The Greece v. 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